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Duval JP

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:24 pm    Post subject: Windows 11 Reply with quote

Hello
I work with W10 without any pb but my updater said W11 is coming soon, do you have experience ?
Many thanks
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(BASCOM-AVR version : 2.0.8.4 )

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no but i know that win11 can not work on all pc's. it seem to need a special hardware security module. and not all pc's have that.
for most users win11 means you need a new pc.
for me it is a lot of work to migrate all software. so i wait Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mark
If you mean TPM, that's no longer the case. If you install manually it will let you in on the minimum configuration of 64bit dual core,4GB RAM.
But if JC offers it automatically it has the required TPM and meets the minimum configuration. The automatic upgrade from win10 works on 8th generation processors and above.
I don't see any substantial reason to reinstall to win11 there. Unless JC is pushing company policy to upgrade.
I have win11 in virtuals,Bascom as a program works,but I have not tried real programmers.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes it is named TPM. but only inside a VM it is not required. in a normal/real PC it is required. at least to the best of my knowledge.
i do not see a reason why bascom would not work but of course i will check that.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mark
I hate to contradict you, but it can be installed without a TPM.
Our colleague Duval JP asked me since I have the opportunity to try I answered .
https://www.techadvisor.com/how-to/windows/windows-11-tpm-2-0-requirement-3806413/

That something works is sometimes a miracle. For example, Siemens TIA v.17 has a connection problem.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is not about right/wrong.
what you link to is a work around. i would not do such.
instead use a VM which does not need TPM. this is what i mentioned before.
I have seen many articles about win11 and TPM. The communication of MS is not really great which they acknowledge.
we will see Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We will see later,
I have 2 computers, mine and my wife's, both are recent, I will try to switch my wife's to Win 11 when W11 is available and I will try Bascom and all my technical drawing, music and photo programs on.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did it!

For me Win11 = Win10 very little change
all common drivers work
Bascom is working
and even a very old VB6 program works

merry christmas and happy new year to all bascom friends

JP

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good news JP. I read many contradicting news about Win11.
I had no time yet to do a VM. Maybe with Xmas.

Merry Xmas and Happy 2022 !

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My (Relatively new) desktop PC asked me to upgrade to Win 11 last week.
I let it to the large download one night after I went to bed, and ran the upgrade the next day.
It has all worked flawlessly!

The only "issue" I have is that I had many programs on my pin to start (?) list that are no longer on there.
I am having to find them as I need them and re-pin them to the easy to find, click to start, place.

Bascom (Beta version), and Studio, and my ARV ISP MKII worked fine.
I haven't programmed a PDI or UPDI chip yet, so I haven't used my SNAP programmer under Win 11 yet.

Merry Christmas, (a day late, sorry), and a Happy New Year to everyone!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,
I hope, itīs OK to reactivate this old Topic and wish you a Happy New Year 2025.
I found a Problem wit Bascom 8051 Demo Version on the new Win11 24H2.
The installation process seams to be fine but wonder if it is normal that there are no "Additional Files" to be installed.




However, after reboot, the following message appeares (unable to register MFC42.DLL)





The result is that BASCOM8051 stay with frosen startscreen.





Any ideas?
Have also some other problems with the installation of Brother Label Printer Software on Win11 24H2, but this is a different story.


Best Regards RePi
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am in the process of installing a new win11 PC to replace my old dev pc.
First advise : install with a local account. (google for details). Or use MS account and add a local admin account later.
bascom should be installed with local admin rights too.

when you use a demo (might be time to get a license?) there are no additional files. The license is missing for example.

The error you get is because some system components can not be registered. Do not know why some have that problem and other do not.
See here : https://www.mcselec.com/support-center/index.php?x=&mod_id=2&id=56
How to fix it.

A future version will not use these components anymore

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had similar issue but it was delayd for several aeconds/minites then it started
Have tou try bascom avr ? Does the same?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for reply.
Bascom AVR installation works fine so far.
Local admin rights are present. I will check for local account tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had the same exact problem but with delay like a few minutes, with DEMO
when i get FUll version which a newer version (2.0.18.0) work instant

so as long as bascom-avr start fast is the same issue of the "old" ide Smile

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