NEW PAID VERSION OF BASCOM TO SUPPORT NEW MICROCONTROLLERS

JC · Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 627 Location: Cleveland, OH

July 28th, 2020

Just thought I'd mention that my Win10 upgrade to Version 2083, followed by my addition of the XTiny Add On, both worked perfectly.

Thank you!

JC

albertsm · Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Posts: 6197 Location: Holland

hgrueneis · Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Posts: 906 Location: A-4786 Brunnenthal

.....ADD ONS.... EXTRA.... Who could not get the fact that it cost extra?
Any extra cost something...get it through your thick skulls. This is not for free!
I will be glad to pay for something improved. Even for Updates.
May be you people how think life is for free... deaath will charge the funeral!!!
Best regards to the unaware users!

plouf · Joined: 19 Jan 2012 Posts: 102 Location: Athens,Greece

Hi
not so frequent member, but the idea of "additional gifts for extra $$$" find me very positive
original license of BASCOM-AVR was "free updates for ever" so this is is difficult to change

"gifts" "add-ons" "extra services" for a fee is very welcome and as said paid by whom who need-understand that work must be paid

since the conversation of this goes so far, i would like to pop the idea (not need a reply but keep it in you mind Wink

)
that the biggest audience out there there for ARM chips, there are too many and practically only 1 competitive BASIC compiler exist.
so, lot of work, but new stuff can have new licence and bigger audience ?! who knows Smile

JC · Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 627 Location: Cleveland, OH

albertsm · Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Posts: 6197 Location: Holland

SZTRAD · Joined: 30 Dec 2019 Posts: 165

For me, a number of xttinys are ok, except for some slight differences that can be bypassed ASM. The advantage of complex Bascom functions and ease of programming was the reason why I once bought it.
Feel free to solve the AVR128 in the same way as xtinny, whoever wants to will buy it. It's the only IDE that is designed this way. Anyone who has ever programmed in a competitive environment knows what I'm writing about. Clarity and processing is simply somewhere else. Functions are written minimalistically and quickly (who does not believe and looks at the source). No unnecessary parts are attached during translation.
From my point of view, I will easily buy another part that will be released and I will need it. I don't need an AVR128 yet but one never knows. Bascom is simply worth speeding up the work. If someone doesn't want to buy one can use arduino but those libraries are often terrifying and the resulting translation is even worse. If something doesn't work, look for a mistake in those lots of linked libraries is an experience.
So thanks again, Mark for the xttiny. It's a pity that something similar is not for stm8 Smile

JC · Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 627 Location: Cleveland, OH

Great news, Microchip released the data sheet for the AVR DB Series, and the External HF Xtal clock option is back!
They also have a LOT of internal modules, (peripherals)!

Not stocked at Mouser yet, but still a great day for AVR users!

JC

hgrueneis · Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Posts: 906 Location: A-4786 Brunnenthal

I am not so much interested in tiny but I would certainly pay for the DA series to be supported. The Tiny chips do not have enough
ports available for my needs.
Best regards
Hubert

olhexy · Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:45 pm Post subject:

Carlos · Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 19

Hello everyone,
Thanks Mark,
I am also a long-time user of BASCOM in the hobby area.
My projects are now so big that I can’t switch to any other programming language without great effort.
Even though I have discovered this and that bug, I have a lot of fun working with BASCOM.

Of course I would also like to pay for the next update.
Good luck, Mark!

techknight · Joined: 21 Apr 2008 Posts: 231

I would be glad to pay for updates every 2 or so years. I was already used to this model with B4X, and other environments.

Developers need to continue to get paid for the blood sweat and tears they continually put into a product that I feel is excellent.

As far as Piracy is concerned, you could do what everyone else does. Server-based activations. 1 License entitles you to 1 machine at a time. You could have it installed on as many computers as you like, as long as only 1 computer is in use at a time otherwise it kicks you out. I dont believe in the Software as a Service model where its all or nothing. I cant stand that. However, I do believe in updates as a service model. So if there are new features, additions, or bugfixes and your paying for the update subscription all is good. If you don't, well, your stuck with what you have as it is model.

I have been using BASCOM legitimately since 2013. I say legitimately because as hard as it is to admit, I was also a Pirate. Yes, I was a pirate. But the software was just too good to have fun with. Once I decided that this product would support me into the future including the commercial aspects, I bought and paid for it. Amnesty Smile

Anyways, I fully support the decisions you make for the future of the product. It really is a good product! and I would pay for it again and renew update subscriptions if I have to.

hgrueneis · Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Posts: 906 Location: A-4786 Brunnenthal

Hello,
I did register later than I used (and paid for the Bascom program)it. Prior to that I purchased a board-designer and had a fairly expensive prototype board manufactured (still for microprocessor). The router ignored three connections(not possible to fix). When I contacted the Owner of the program, I was told "it is not a professional program". So there was no support for anything yet that person still sent me advertisements 10 years after that.
In that respect I think that Bascom and it's support are superior and really outstanding. New devices added periodically and supported till the end of live... I have not had any Company and their contracts give any better service and support to their customers(even when I had a Company). Registered in 20007 but did not have to pay anything for upgrades just blows my mind. Mark is really working hard to get everything working flawlessly, but is not charging for it! Like I posted beforesides , A renewal of the subscription or an update or extension to pay for, I really do not have a problem with.
But like Mark mentioned before "it's up to him" and I agree.
At my age , I hope to use Bascom for a while and finish my ongoing Project (VTOL). Besides the canoe I am building right now.
JUst my 2 bits.
Best regards
Hubert

P.S: Sorry for the novel..

cucuruzel · Joined: 18 Mar 2010 Posts: 53 Location: Cluj-Napoca

Hello,

I bought my Bascom license in 2010 and if I remember correctly it was around 90 Euros. I pay more for netflix each month than for Bascom in a year. It just isn't right.

I admit I've also used a pirate copy when I was a student. But after I have started working and seen what a great piece of software Bascom is, I had to buy it.

It shaped my life and allowed me to have my own one person "company" because it's so easy to use, productive, just the right tool for "one man show".

This covid pandemic has forced me to get a "classic" job, and I wouldn't want the same thing to happen to other small companies, that make great products, like Mark's Bascom.

So why not pay for updates? Or even for the whole software from time to time?

My opinion is that a monthly, small, practically negligible fee from a lot of users would provide a more stable income. Just to be hassle free to pay...

If we want Bascom to be present on the long term, think at the retirement age, any ideas for that?

Thanks to the whole MCS team, one more person is aware of the effort the team made during all these years.